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Q&A: Phillips 66's renewables VP talks RD, SAF

  • Spanish Market: Biofuels, Oil products
  • 29/01/24

A much-anticipated surge in renewable diesel (RD) production is expected to start flowing from US refiner Phillips 66's Rodeo, California, refinery this quarter. Suresh Vaidyanathan, vice president of renewable fuels for Phillips 66 talked to Argus on the sidelines of last week's Argus Americas Crude Summit about renewable fuels policy, demand and the future of refinery conversions.

Government policy has been a tailwind to renewable fuels development in the US. How much of a risk is policy reversal under a new administration?

The IRA [Inflation Reduction Act] was a bipartisan effort, so we don't expect much regression from political administrations changing.

If you take California as an example and the policies which drive the economics of renewables production like the Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS), administrations have changed and nothing has happened to those. A careful approach is still warranted but we don't expect major policy changes because society has to decarbonize and pivot to low carbon fuels.

What's the biggest headwind for renewable fuels adoption and development in the US?

More certainty in regulations is key. Under the LCFS, states are doing their own thing, so having a uniform and more consistent approach is needed.

The other headwind is permitting, which is more painful in some parts of the country. That's an area where the industry could use some help to advance renewables projects which can be slowed down by permitting difficulties.

Are renewable feedstocks markets ready for the start up of renewable diesel (RD) production at Rodeo?

We have a good line of sight to the feedstocks we need. From a products side, the last mile placement is key. The whole program depends on subsidies, so having a full supply chain allows us to capture that value. We are very comfortable with the position we are in as we get ready to start Rodeo.

What will happen to petroleum refined products markets in California when Rodeo's crude capacity goes offline?

Our crude processing at Rodeo has generally tapered off and our crude rates have been very low. What we process today is a small amount of crude so we don't expect a material impact to the West coast market with imports able to make up the lost capacity.

Are you seeing RD production displacing petroleum diesel in the US?

At a macro US level, petroleum diesel has more room for growth and that's where refiners are trying to focus more. But RD adoption is regional and based on local regulations and subsidies in states like California, Oregon, Washington, New Jersey and New York.

Should we expect more renewable fuels conversation or investments at refineries in 2024? What is Phillips 66 planning?

It depends on how fast and how many states adopt LCFS and those rules. Feedstocks supply is also something to keep in mind. In general, revamps and brownfield projects are going to be more attractive than building something up from the ground.

Phillips is always looking at opportunities for RD and sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). Global aviation demand is growing and Europe has mandated certain levels of usage while airlines have made similar commitments.

When we started building Rodeo, before the US Inflation Reduction Act was in place, it was based on making RD. But since then we pivoted our strategy so the asset can make SAF, subject to supportive SAF economics.


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